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At a school in Illinois they have banned public displays of affection. This is reasonable I can understand, but the way it is being enforced I find a little wacko. Punishment for hugging your best friends on Friday before you go home for the weekend at the end of the day is a little bit over the top, a day of detention for each hug. Is the school a place where we are too good for hugging? What kind of public displays of affection are not appropriate for school and what can be acceptable? I don't know if the way this school is addressing the problem would be the right way to work on this problem . . .
With some of the changes projected for the Minneapolis Public Schools in the near future, will there be something like this, a silly or not well thought out policy? Will we make large mistakes in our proposed remodeled schools?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071106/ap_on_fe_st/odd_detention_for_h...

Tags: affection, hugging, punishment

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Great point, Laura. See my post above. I'd love for you to join the committee, too!

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Here is another "the officials can't be wrong" article. In this case, however, the superintendent is saying a mistake was made.

Citation for 'skipping class' puts student on edge
A school cop cited him during an unauthorized restroom visit; he says he just forgot his coat and left lunch period to get it.
Christine Ferretti / The Detroit News
BELLEVILLE -- Cameron Coleman has been anxious for weeks.

He is having trouble sleeping. He is failing his science class.

And he is fearful each day when he goes to school, ever since he was ticketed by a school resource officer for "skipping class" while retrieving his jacket from the bathroom during his lunch hour.

Now, the 11-year-old South Middle School student must appear in court on Dec. 6 with his parents for a mandatory interview with a juvenile probation officer to determine his penalty for the disorderly person charge, a misdemeanor offense.

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071126/SCHOOLS/...

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A new article on the same topic (bans on hugging). THoughts?

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/orange/la-me-parsons29nov29,1,265...

Brett -- You should consider emailing Dana Parsons (the author) about the discussion taking place here. I bet he would be interested in any ideas you all have for alternate solutions.

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When this story broke loose I was defiently suprised-- if not a little mad! Where I go to school, we wouldn't learn anything if every student was put in detention for hugging their friend. Although, I admit, it can go a little too far for my comfort zone, this freedom of outword expression is one of the things that I value in my education. It allows us to be who we are- not just walking uniforms with different names. I think it is something that the teachers value as well. Heck, I hug my teachers! And if it ever came to the point where students would be punished for loving their neighbor, I highly doubt I would continue to pursue my education at that school.

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Well put AvalonDreamer! So you would actually change schools if this policy were implemented and enforced like it is in the Illinois school. Interesting. Anyone else feel the same?

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I do. I would go on a hugging rampage and them transfer/

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Depends, I think I would try and make a difference to the policy before I just left . . . thats what I did at my old school and I couldn't make a big enough difference in enough time to make it worth it to stay.

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I would love to see the article and stuff, but I do not have a LA Times acount to view the article from. Is there a way you could paste some here or something?

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They just want you to register - it doesn't cost anything. I have an account with them and they never send me any spam or anything, so I think it's pretty safe.

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honestly, I don't care what other students do to each other, short of outright sex in the halls. The moaning and stuff would distract people I think and who's going to clean up? But anyways, banning even hugging is terrible, and, as was demonstrated with cocaine, when you create a taboo it only creates more incentives to perform that taboo. Cocaine was illegalized and prices shot up 40 times what they were. But illegal sales were believed to have increased after the ban... this does not follow ANY supply and demand law. If the price goes up, demand should go down... but it didn't.
If you ban hugging, rebels will perform PDAs more, huggers will hug more, etc.

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OK. I'm blown away. You are obviously a very smart person.

So, Cori, why do you think they created this policy? And what could they do instead to achieve that end?

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Armatage
parents received the following email today:

"Over the course of the past few days, I have received numerous
complaints from students and parents about their children being
touched through aggressive behavior and/ or play fighting. Often
times it is difficult for staff to determine whether it is for fun
or of a more serious nature. In addition, there are students who
plain and simply are not comfortable when they are touched either
casually or in a game situation. Since we can not have different
rules for different children, I have shared with many of the
classrooms today (and the rest tomorrow) that touching in any form
is no longer acceptable while in school. There were many questions
about exceptions such as "What if we are friends and want to hold
hands?" or "What if the other person says it is okay?" For
consistency purposes, we are saying that to be respectful of all
students' rights, we will go with a no touch policy therefore; no
one has to be concerned that they are being touched against their
will. Feel free to give me a call if you have any specific
questions. In advance, thank you for your support. Joan Franks"

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